For the past few years, there’s been something about a pop star vacuum—or at least, a pop-music star vacuum. Artists making massive, centrist, big-tent pop music have been sidelined as hip-hop—and other genres that have borrowed heavily from it—took center stage.
But Olivia Rodrigo, a Disney child star battling bad breakups and crackling voices, has made pop primal and primal again. “sour” her first album, Simply number 1 . debuted on With the biggest sales week of the year on the Billboard Albums Chart.
On this week’s Popcast, a chat about Rodrigo’s meteoric year so far, the long arc of emo mainstream, and the swiftness of maturing Disney idols.
Olivia Horn, who writes about music for Pitchfork, The New York Times and others
Lindsay Zoladz, who writes about music for The New York Times and others